Donovan
Further to my reply to you of yesterday. Are you a member of the Sole Society? I suspect not. The Sole Society has a comprehensive family tree relating to the people you refer to. The Society provides a free CD Rom on Saul research to it members. Granted it was produced in 2003 but you will be surprised at the information of your family tree on this disk. It will be found under the reference code of FEC. For membership details please look at this web site.

Regards

Norman